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Part 10: Carlos Lehder: The Movie "Blow" was Fiction, Boston George Never Met Pablo Escobar
Part 1: Medellin Cartel Co-Founder Carlos Lehder on Meeting Boston George in Prison

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Carlos Lehder speaks with Vlad about Hollywood and streaming portrayals of the cocaine era, from George Jung “Boston George” and the Johnny Depp film *Blow* to Netflix’s *Narcos*. Lehder challenges parts of the popular narrative around Jung, Pablo Escobar, and the Medellín Cartel, pointing to federal court transcripts and saying he took over Jung’s California cocaine connections after they reached out to him. He also reflects on the dangers of the criminal world, describing prison, betrayal, robbery, and murder as its only “guarantees.”

The interview turns to *Narcos*, where Lehder says the show exaggerated details about him—especially depicting him with a swastika tattoo. Lehder insists he has never had tattoos, notes that swastikas are illegal in Germany, and explains his German citizenship through his father and registration at the German Embassy in Bogotá. He also mentions attorney Edward Shohat, a Jewish lawyer who defended him at trial.