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Part 3: CIA Agent Charles Finfrock on Using "Reid Technique" to Know if Someone's Lying
Part 1: CIA Officer Charles Finfrock on Paying Snitch $5M & Making Them Sign "Snitch Receipt"
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Former CIA officer Charles Finfrock sits down with Vlad to discuss life after 18 years in the agency, the lack of aftercare for intelligence veterans, and his transition into private intelligence with Vigilance before joining Tesla’s internal security intelligence team in 2019. Finfrock breaks down how Tesla protected confidential technology and proprietary business information from insider threats, nation-state pressure from China and Russia, and employees attempting to move data through email, cloud storage and USB drives.
He also details one of the most serious cases he handled: a Russian national tied to a criminal gang allegedly offering a Tesla employee $500,000 to install malware for a ransomware extortion attack. Finfrock explains how the employee reported the approach, how Tesla worked with the FBI, and why cybercrime, trade secrets theft, economic espionage and prosecution remain difficult under current law. The conversation also touches on Elon Musk, corporate espionage, cybersecurity and insider threat investigations.
