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Sammy "The Bull" Gravano returns and discusses the Diddy trial, which resulted in a guilty verdict on a minor charge but acquittal on RICO and trafficking charges. Gravano explains the RICO law, which was misapplied in Diddy's case, and criticizes the prosecution for not focusing on state charges. He shares his own experience with RICO, where he was charged with four murders and cooperated to reduce his sentence. He and Vlad also discuss the role of Cassie and the potential sentencing for Diddy.
The interview touches on the portrayal of the mafia in media and the complexities of legal strategies in criminal cases. The discussion delved into the portrayal of mafia figures in movies, such as "The Godfather" and "Casino," and the real-life mafia activities, including the Colombo-Gallo war and the role of figures like Frank Costello and Roy DeMeo. The conversation also touched on the impact of cooperating with authorities, the mafia's evolution into a more business-oriented organization, and the personal challenges faced by Gravano's family post-cooperation. The son, Michael, shared his experiences growing up with a mafia father and the family's resilience. He recounted his father's cooperation with authorities, which led to a 20-year sentence for him, despite his limited role in the operation. He also touched on his father's decision to cooperate, which he believes was driven by the need to protect the family.