Ness, a Philly rapper and former cast member of Diddy's MTV show "Making the Band," discussed his journey from a competitive upbringing in Philadelphia to becoming a rapper. He detailed his early involvement in hip-hop, his time in public housing, and his legal troubles, including a case that led to a prison sentence. Ness recounted his audition process for "Making the Band," the challenges of being on the show, and the band's financial struggles. He also touched on Diddy's legal issues, including the Cassie lawsuit and the grand jury indictment, and reflected on the industry's treatment of artists. The conversation delves into the complexities of a criminal enterprise, using the example of a one-person criminal organization. Vlad and Ness explore the financial aspects of Cassie's career, noting her $30 million worth and the insurance payouts from Diddy's companies. The discussion touches on Diddy's control issues, his relationships with women, and the potential legal consequences he might face.