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In this clip, Michael Jai White shares his thoughts on the recent $21 billion dollar acquisition that resulted in the merger of the WWE and UFC. This prompts DJ Vlad to refer Michael to a previous interview with former WWE/UFC star Ken Shamrock who states that wrestling in the WWE was much harder on his body than actually fighting in the UFC. To that, Michael shared testimony from one of his best friends, former WWE/WCW star Ernest "The Cat" Miller, who told him about the bumps his body would take in the ring. From there, the two men talk about widespread steroid use in the WWE, their tough touring schedule, and more. Michael also explains why he chooses to work with retired professional wrestling/combat fighters so often in his films.