After explaining the difference between urban and commercial tattooing, Black Ink Crew's Ceaser explains why he feels like VH1 may give the reality show—which is currently in its fifth season— signed up for a total 10 seasons. Despite wanting to end his TV stardom after the third season, Cease credits reality TV for making him a mature business man. Now, after opening his second tattoo parlor in Harlem, Cease plans on taking his next shop to Atlanta where he plans on creating his flagship tattoo shop.

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